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.45-70 Government vs .30-30 Winchester: A Comparison

.45-70 Government vs .30-30 Winchester: A Comparison

Hey all, we here at True Shot Academy are going to talk about two powerful defensive handgun cartridges that share a numerical designation but differ significantly in design and application. The .357 Magnum and .357 SIG represent different generations and approaches to achieving high-velocity performance in handguns. Today we will compare these two hard-hitting cartridges across ballistic performance, practical applications, and real-world considerations.

Background of .357 Magnum and .357 SIG

The .357 Magnum emerged in 1934 as a collaborative development between Smith & Wesson and Winchester. It was created by lengthening the .38 Special case and loading it to substantially higher pressures, delivering unprecedented velocity from a revolver cartridge.

By contrast, the .357 SIG was introduced in 1994, developed by SIG Sauer and Federal to replicate .357 Mag performance in semi-automatic pistols. Engineers necked down a .40 S&W case to accept 9mm/.355″ bullets, producing a bottlenecked cartridge with high velocity potential.

These timelines reflect different priorities: the .357 Magnum arose in the revolver era focused on terminal ballistics, while the .357 SIG came with modern semi-automatic platforms prioritizing capacity and consistent feeding.

Cartridge Specifications and Physical Characteristics

The .357 Magnum uses a straight-walled, rimmed case about 1.29 inches long, overall length roughly 1.59 inches, and fires .357" bullets commonly 125–180 grains. The .357 SIG uses a bottlenecked, rimless case (0.865 inch case length, ~1.14 inch overall length) and fires 9mm/.355" bullets typically 115–147 grains, with 125 grains common.

The rimmed .357 Magnum functions in revolvers and lever-action rifles. The rimless .357 SIG functions in semi-automatic pistols and carbines designed for rimless cartridges. That difference drives distinct capacities, handling, and operating mechanisms.

Ballistic Performance Comparison

The cartridges produce similar high-velocity profiles despite different designs.

The .357 Magnum often pushes a 125-grain bullet about 1,450 fps from a 4" revolver barrel, roughly 580 ft-lbs of energy. From 6" barrels velocities increase (for example to about 1,550 fps, ~670 ft-lbs). Heavier 158-grain bullets travel slower but often penetrate deeper.

The .357 SIG pushes a 125-grain bullet about 1,350 fps from a 4" semi-auto barrel, roughly 500 ft-lbs. The bottleneck design helps reliable feeding while producing magnum-like velocities in a semi-automatic platform.

Terminally, both cartridges can expand and penetrate reliably with quality hollow points. The .357 Magnum has a slight edge in absolute performance, especially from longer barrels, but defensive differences are modest with modern defensive loadings.

Available Ammunition Types

Both cartridges offer diverse loadings, but emphasis differs by typical use.

.357 Magnum Varieties:

  • JHP, optimized for expansion and penetration, typically 125–158 grains.
  • Heavy cast bullets, up to 200+ grains for hunting.
  • FMJ and lead round nose for economical training.
  • Hunting expanding bullets for controlled expansion on game.
  • Reduced-recoil loads approximating .38 Special for training.

.357 SIG Varieties:

  • Defensive JHPs designed for law enforcement and civilian defense.
  • FMJ training loads for practice.
  • Bonded bullets for barrier performance.
  • Frangible training rounds that disintegrate on hard impact.
  • +P enhanced-pressure variants for maximum terminal performance.

Major Ammunition Manufacturers

Most major manufacturers produce both cartridges, though .357 Magnum is offered more widely.

  • Federal offers Personal Defense HST and Hydra-Shok in both chamberings, plus hunting options for .357 Magnum.
  • Speer makes Gold Dot in both cartridges, with .357 SIG popular in law enforcement.
  • Winchester offers Defender, Super-X, and Silvertip lines in .357 Magnum and Ranger/PDX1 in .357 SIG.
  • Hornady provides Critical Defense and Critical Duty in both cartridges plus specialized .357 Magnum hunting loads.

Availability differences typically make .357 SIG pricier and less widely offered compared to .357 Magnum.

PMC Bronze .357 Magnum
PMC Bronze .357 Magnum

Firearms Chambered in Each Caliber

Available platforms differ because of case design.

.357 Magnum Firearms:

  • Smith & Wesson revolvers across J, K, L, and N frames, e.g., Model 686.
  • Ruger LCR, SP101, GP100, Redhawk, and single-action Blackhawk models.
  • Colt Pythons and King Cobras in limited or legacy production.
  • Lever-action rifles from Marlin, Henry, and Rossi chambered in .357 Magnum.

.357 SIG Firearms:

  • SIG Sauer P226, P229, and P320 variants in .357 SIG.
  • Glock G31, G32, and G33 in .357 SIG configurations.
  • Some Smith & Wesson M&P pistols and limited 1911-pattern pistols in .357 SIG.

The .357 SIG has seen fewer new model introductions recently, as many agencies returned to 9mm, but existing models remain available.

Sellier & Bellot .357 SIG
Sellier & Bellot .357 SIG

Practical Applications and Use Cases

Each cartridge excels in different scenarios based on platform and ballistics.

.357 Magnum is well suited for:

  • Hunting small to medium game at moderate ranges.
  • Wilderness defense against predators.
  • Situations needing maximum handgun terminal performance.
  • Users who value the ability to shoot .38 Special in the same revolver.

.357 SIG is well suited for:

  • Law enforcement or defense roles needing barrier penetration.
  • Self-defense where semi-auto capacity and magnum-like ballistics matter.
  • Competitive divisions benefiting from higher power factors in semi-autos.

Trade-offs include capacity and handling: .357 SIG magazines often hold 10–15 rounds, while .357 Magnum revolvers typically hold 5–8. The .357 Magnum can deliver higher absolute performance from longer barrels and offers .38 Special versatility.

Conclusion

The .357 Magnum and .357 SIG achieve similar high-velocity goals through different approaches and platforms. Choice usually depends on platform preference, capacity needs, and specific use cases rather than major differences in defensive terminal effectiveness with modern defensive ammo.

True Shot Ammo carries both .357 Mag and .357 SIG, plus common calibers like 9mm, 5.56, 12 gauge, and .22 LR.

Kyle Read
AUTHOR INFORMATION

Kyle Read

As founder of True Shot, Kyle's vision and determination have grown True Shot from his garage to being an Inc 5000 company in 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024 with growth in excess of 1,400%. His mission is for True Shot to become the best place to buy ammunition and accessories in America. In addition to his professional pursuits, Kyle has a passion for international travel, Formula 1 racing, and the gym. Kyle and his wife are currently raising their three boys in Phoenix, AZ.

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